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Sunday, November 18, 2012


I don't get how the conflict in Israel is up for debate. We have one side that willingly gave land and existence to the other side and are just trying to live their lives, and that other side then starts lobbing mortars and rockets because they've got a case of the hips in re: the very existence of their enemy.

I get that Hamas wants Jerusalem, but guess what, you can't always get what you want. Firing explosives into populated areas should be a clear cut case of "these are the bad guys, ok?" but for some reason I will NEVER understand, many people sympathize with Palestine.

Israel has every right to exist. Israel has every right to defend that existence against all threats. I'd personally even say Israel has the right to be aggressive in that defense, to remove the threat entirely. Take Iran as another point. Iran is developing nuclear weapons. Iran has sworn to wipe Israel off the face of the planet. Israel is a small enough land area that a single nuke basically means game over. Israel does not have the option of reacting to threats.

I honestly don't see where the room for disagreement comes. The only possible place would be in debating Israel's right to exist, which I see as preposterous. No one debates that Poland should be allowed to exist. Why then is it so different for Israel?

Someone want to explain this to me?


  1. You see Isrealis as people; not the enemy, which is why you can't see why it is up for debate.

    Many people deny that Israel has the right to exist; period, full stop, end of story.

    They simply deny it.
    People do deny that Poland has a right to exist, just as they deny every other state has the right to exist (except paradoxically their own state).

    The reason? Could call it historical - who "owned" or ruled the land first, last, longest, etc.
    Could call it religious; not even going to open that can of worms.
    Could call it psychological; us versus them. Always been that way and in a land with a long history, there is quiet a bit of "us" out to destroy the others.

    I really don't understand it all (or even most) myself. I do know it exists and we have to deal with it on that basis.

    But consider this; there are people who in this country, with the same basic background as you and I who deny our right to defend ourselves.

    Why should it be any different for a country?

  2. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/pro-hamas-protesters-in-toronto-compare-hamas-rockets-to-firecrackers-and-wait-until-you-hear-what-else-they-said/

  3. On the point of who "owned the land", the "Palestinians" never have in the history of mankind.
    The muslim population is one of the most egregiously oppressed on the face of the planet. In order to deflect retribution from the muslim hords, the muslim opressors offer up a straw man in the form of the Jews towards which the muslim oppressed can vent their anger.
    In the ideal world, muslims would expunge Jews and Christians from the earth. Unexpectedly, their plight would be no better, as their muslim oppressors would still hold dominion over them.
    oh, and it wouldn't hurt their society if they'd lay off the first cousin inbreeding, IQ levels being in the basement and all.


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